Mississippi candidate calls for mayors blocking Chick-fil-A getting “introduced to the Second Amendment”In a totally peaceful way, I’m sure…
South Mississippi congressional candidate Ron Williams said mayors vowing to block new Chick-fil-A restaurants because the company’s president opposes gay marriage “need to be introduced to the Second Amendment ASAP.”
Williams, a Libertarian candidate for the U.S. House District 4 seat, made that and other statements in a letter to the editor to the Sun Herald. But asked about the letter, he said his comments were “hyperbole, non clarity,” and that “I don’t want anybody to go shoot anybody, but I want people to understand what a slippery slope we can be on and what the purpose of the Second Amendment is.”
But FreeRepublic is Not Racist…
This case is about :
- A quasi-trained MMA fighter whose mind was blasted on “purple drank” trying to kill a guy with no combat training.
- The victim saving his own life and likely the lives of other people with a small pistol.
- A rogue political party legitimizing a pair of race-hustling criminals by the names of Jackson and Sharpton.
- An open threat of large numbers of brainwashed and ignorant people rioting and demanding a human sacrifice not to riot.
- A desperate rogue-party president claiming that if he had a son, the son would look like an asshole, i.e. like the purple-dranked-out former MMA artist.
- A rogue prosecutor and judge insisting on holding the victim in prison prior to trial for no rational reason and in fact seeking to force him to cop a plea to bullshit charges by threatening his wife with prison over more bullshit occasioned by themselves.
It’s also about the basic idea of equality in our society and the question of whether or not we now have special/protected groups of people who are legally untouchable to the extent that the rest of us can’t even defend ourselves when one of them goes crazy on drugs and tries to kill us.
74 posted on Friday, July 06, 2012 5:06:07 PM by varmintman
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The RNC can’t do anything right when it comes to doing things on the internet. From website to shining website, it is a parade of failure! Let’s go marching, shall we?
First of all, the RNC has itself a minority problem. We all know that, but thanks to the RNC, we now know that all minorities are interchangeable! Thanks to RNC Latino, who decided to use photos of Asian kids as its headline banner of Latinos. Whoops! At least we know who designed the website, Former Nevada Senate candidate Sharron Angle!
The parade doesn’t stop there, because the RNC is honest. And by honest, I mean totally dishonest and completely stole a DNC website to use for their own! The best part of this is the website they are using it for is to say that Obama doesn’t have any ideas! This is the most ironic thing to happen since Alanis Morissette was killed by 10,000 spoons on her rainy wedding day.
Our long national nightmare is over! Yes, once again, some guy with a website has declared that he’s not just one dude, but a whole angry mob of Real American Patriots who will Take Back America from the Godless Commie Marxist Socialist Muslims! This latest site is the Citizens For Constitutional Governance (CFCG), and just because they needed a different acronym for their group, they’re also The Constitutional Oversight Posse (COP). I can’t read that name without thinking of Police Academy 4: Citizens on Patrol. And like Police Academy 4, the Constitutional Oversight Posse is hilarious! So let’s meet the funny, and the people who will save us from anything that happened post-1860!
Your mission, COP agents, if you choose to accept it…
Mission: To hold to account any congressman, executive branch officer, or federal judge who violates the oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States.
The Constitution overrides the dictates of government officials. It carries the will of the people who ratified it. It may be changed by the amendment process only. It may not be changed by twisted interpretations of its words, by errant precedents set by disobedient judges, or by the pressure of a mob-rule majority.
I’m bolding the mob-rule majority section for later. But for now, let’s just realize the COP refuses to recognize interpretations of the Constitution it doesn’t agree with. This is a great out, because they can argue it’s totally for mandatory Christianity for all while screaming about the 2nd Amendment to the letter.
As the Declaration of Independence points out, it is the duty of the people to correct a government that persistently violates its charter. The government over the last century has demonstrated its inability to restrain itself from violating the Constitution. The government has been indulging in the exercise of powers that would never have been ratified by the prescribed amendment process. Congress, the Executive Branch, and the Supreme Court have all been complicit. To rectify this problem, the Constitutional Oversight Posse has been instituted by citizens of the United States to enforce the Constitution and to ensure that any government official so presumptuous as to try to override the will of the people who ratified the Constitution and its amendments shall be duly brought to justice.
And the COP are using the Declaration of Independence to justify taking up arms against the government. Let’s also like how the COP was instituted by “citizens of the United States” – aka one guy – and he now has more power than the entire rest of the USA because he says so.
The COP will grow its membership until it has at least one million signed members who are eligible to vote in the United States.
One million members!?!?! I’ll point out right here that even the largest Tea Party groups barely have this number, and of the two that claim it, one has a lot of legacy members from before the tea party existed (Americans for Prosperity – which I don’t count as a tea party group regardless no matter what they wrote on Wikipedia), and the other is spread out over thousands of “affiliates” who could easily be sending in inflated member counts. (Freedomworks – which also didn’t start as a tea party group and their tea party spinoff Tea Party Patriots has a considerably smaller roster. Freedomworks list of active volunteers is also lower at 600,000) Most of the other larger websites have realistic numbers of ~120,000-90,000.
But, sure, whatever, one million people, easy. Obviously COP has the experience needed to manage a group of that size.
Once the required membership level has been reached, the COP’s governing board will generate an initial list of violators: government officials who have violated or ignored the oath of office or who have participated in unconstitutional exercises of power. The board will then identify the congressmen who are legally responsible for initiating the impeachment and/or expulsion of the violators.
Ah, until they have a million people, they don’t have to do diddly squat! This is perfect! Then the “board” (aka the one dude) can just pick whoever he doesn’t like that week to target.
No arrest will be conducted without the participation, at the site of the arrest, of at least ten-thousand members of the COP and the assent of at least a majority of the remaining members of the COP. No assault and no physical restraint may be used on the arrested official. No armaments may be illegally employed in the arrest. Any restraints on an arrested official’s mobility will be within the limitations of the first-amendment right to assemble and within the customary guidelines for citizen’s arrests of persons displaying criminal behavior.
Oh, and they won’t arrest anyone until they have a mob of 10,000 to 1 odds of arresting the person. But they’re against mob rule, remember? Except when it is their mob, their rules.
The first major action of the COP after the membership surpasses one million people will likely be the issuance of an ultimatum to the chairman of the House Judicial Committee and to the Speaker of the House warning them that they will be subject to arrest unless they initiate within one month the impeachment and/or other legal proceedings required to remove from office Attorney General Eric Holder and President Barack Obama in a manner that will result, to the maximal extent, in the negation of the unconstitutional actions they have taken while in office. The COP will then use its threat of arrest to hand-hold each and every one of the representatives and senators through the most expeditious constitutionally-allowed process leading to expulsion of the accused.
The COP will thereafter continue to act as enforcer of the Constitution, managing the expulsion of one violator of the Constitution after another, thereby chastening an otherwise errant government and restoring the Constitution as the legitimate ruler of the United States.
As you can see, COP set a perfectly reasonable first target that totally won’t get them arrested for sending threatening letters to Congressmen.
Given the large backlog of violators of the oath and of the Constitution, the COP is likely to be a very busy organization. It will be a very productive organization, as well, because for every official arrested or expelled from the government there will be at least ten who will thereafter be careful not to cross the line.
We’re gonna be pretty busy, but luckily our mob rule will totally scare the politicians in line instead of getting a few of us arrested for threatening the president.
COP, folks! This Posse is on a collision course with justice! Or their site will be offline in a year when they forget to renew the hosting. But FREEDOM!!
The Rebellion is here! And by here, I mean it’s on FreeRepublic.com. And they aren’t rebelling against Obama, they’ve set their sights on a far bigger dictator… FreeRepublic.com founder Jim Robinson himself! How did this happen? Join us as we travel through one of the most epic threads on FR in a long time, as the Freepers get tired of the empty rhetoric and sycophants and start to stand up to the face of the zots. Our thread begins with 2ndDivisionVet starts an inauspicious thread entitled Let’s put this to bed. We have bigger fish to fry, and then things go downhill from there as far as Freepathons are concerned…
Let’s put this to bed. We have bigger fish to fry.
April 27, 2012 | 2ndDivisionVet
Posted on Fri Apr 27 04:56:50 2012 by 2ndDivisionVet
Everyone please send whatever you are able to, whether it is $10, $100 or $1,000+. The DUmmies, Morons, Kos Kiddies and that crew are laughing up their sleeves. Jim may have to make this site members only or allow ads. Better for us to just help with what we can. Maybe you can donate as a memorial for a lost loved one, a servicemember who never made it home or was disabled defending our country. Perhaps you’d like to give to keep free discussion alive and to show them that we’re not knuckling under. I’m sure a well thought out or prayerful meditation will lead you to see the need and how you can help. If every registered FReeper and our lurkers would each just help out with a fin or a sawbuck, or better yet a Ben Franklin, we could put this to bed and get on with the conservative cause.
The complaints begin almost immediately against the current culture of fear and the Anti-Romney purgings on FreeRepublic.com
This primary season was really ugly and a lot of people, old and new, left because of the piling on or were banned. I even left for a while. It’s going to take a long time to heal those wounds. Lots of people will never come back and have found new homes at other forums.
That’s a major reason why the donations are down hard. Another reason is because people have been cutting their budgets because of the slow economy and inflation.
The owner has to find a way to survive and I, for one, don’t begrudge the use of ads if that’s the only way.
7 posted on Friday, April 27, 2012 7:43:15 AM by randita
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A LOT of people aren’t welcomed here any more. That hurts donations significantly.
8 posted on Friday, April 27, 2012 7:54:49 AM by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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Insulting FReepers is not exactly the best way to solicit funds.
You may want to reflect on why contributions are way off.
12 posted on Friday, April 27, 2012 8:03:32 AM by Second Amendment First (“Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not…” – Thomas Jefferson.)
When 2ndDivisionVet acts incredulous that some people are upset over the bannings, he’s given even more flack
You don’t believe that free discussion takes place here?
I guess that depends on your definition of free
13 posted on Friday, April 27, 2012 8:05:29 AM by fml
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I believe that there used to be a model of free discussion here. But, the number of zots over opinion as opposed to violation of posting rules gives credence to those who say that this model has ceased to exist.
You know that I speak my mind. What you don’t know is that I have received well over a dozen messages in the past two years from freepers who said that they were afraid to post similar opinions for fear of being zotted.
That’s the fact of it…many long-time freepers do not feel “free” to discuss. I believe that the pendulum will swing back but in the mean-time FR will lose good people.
15 posted on Friday, April 27, 2012 8:12:52 AM by wtc911 (Amigo – you’ve been had.)
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“You don’t believe that free discussion takes place here?”
You’re kidding, right? Ask all the people who have been run off over a simple difference of opinion if free discussion takes place here.
25 posted on Friday, April 27, 2012 8:38:07 AM by WatchOutForSnakes
Of course, 2ndDivisionVet then gives my favorite Internet Tough Guy response ever:
To: Peter from Rutland
I am a 6ft, 360lbs Army and security veteran. I don’t really think I need to threaten anyone. Why are you trying to bait me? Did my talk of trolling for Obama perhaps hit a little too close to home? We know that various and sundry Axelrod dupes are assigned to FR and other conservative sites to stir the excreta. You’re sounding more and more like one of them.
37 posted on Friday, April 27, 2012 8:54:04 AM by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
360 pounds???? He must be the whole second division…
Peter from Rutland is not afraid..
You can accuse me of being Adolf Hitler but it doesn’t make it true.
You people have gone over the line with me a number of times and I’ve had enough. I was going to shut up but I’ve decided to make a stand because there are more out here just like me, they’re just too afraid to stand up to you people.
The rest of the sane world is working to get rid of Obama, no matter what the cost is because the country you fought for cannot stand another four years of this.
Winning the Senate and the House is not enough because Obama has proven he will simply go around them. Yet it seems a vast majority here want to plant their feet in the ground and stand on some false sense of “no more RINOs, it stops here”.
Well, this isn’t the time for it. Lead, follow, or get out of the way.
46 posted on 04/27/2012 7:08:20 AM PDT by Peter from Rutland
More people air their grievances…
You are so correct. I have been a member since 2001 and have always been quite loyal. However, the insults and constant badgering that is currently allowed has soured me on the site. Believe me I am extremely conservative, but feel that it is more important to remove Obama than anything else. That is obviously no longer the objective on this site. Instead it seems to be to insult anyone who believes as I do.
Because this site is supported by we who contribute, I don’t understand the thinking that only some peoples ideas can be heard. Of course, if I am an Obama backer I should be insulted and banned, but that is far from the case. It will unfortunately destroy the site. I am so sad, because I have always loved this site. i just don’t come here any more because of the insults.
44 posted on Friday, April 27, 2012 9:05:19 AM by w1andsodidwe (Barrak has now won the contest. He is even worse than Jimmah.)
Could banning everyone that voices an even slightly different opinion be causing problems? Nah…
The vindictiveness that comes out on almost every thread is far from open and free discussion. This is a major part of the donation problem, as I see it.
47 posted on Friday, April 27, 2012 9:12:02 AM by SouthTexas (You cannot bargain with the devil, shut the government down.)
wtc911 gets threatened for being reasonable, but there are defenders…
To: JoeProBono; wtc911
Its funny. WTC posits that good discussion could be down due to the antagonistic posters threatening to zot everyone who doesnt fall in line and you call him a troll. Wonder where the intelligent discussion went? It left when people started using pictures and insults as debating tools.
50 posted on Friday, April 27, 2012 9:17:17 AM by Raider Sam (They’re on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
“Free discussion…” LOL! How can you even post such a lie. I told the goon squad last January they were losing donations due to their stupid antics of Zotting,tattle tailing and brow beating posters that don’t tow the line. Now you come with your tin cup in hand wondering where the money went. It’s NOT the economy but you all won’t listen anyways.
51 posted on Friday, April 27, 2012 9:20:20 AM by ladyvet ( I would rather have Incitatus then the asses that are in congress today.)
Jim was warned years ago that banning and insulting his followers was going to lead down this path. He chose arrogance, pride and misguided principles (whatever they may be at the moment) over the financial health of this site and now he’s reaping the rewards. You want our money? Change the way you do business. Simple as that.
68 posted on Friday, April 27, 2012 9:40:10 AM by Ace of Spades (Sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
Exactly. I still give a monthly donation, but mostly out of inertia.
“FR wants my money, but not my opinions” – that’s been my prevailing thought since I committed the apostasy of saying Romney gave a decent speech one night many months ago. Amazingly, I wasn’t summarily banned, but the rebuttals were quite rabid, and really were a game changer in my attitude towards the site, of which I’ve been a member off and on since the Clinton days. Add to that my non-Christian beliefs, and a profession that many here strongly despise, and it’s clear I don’t really belong.
I still come here for the news and the often entertaining reactions to it, but I no longer believe the local denizens represent the views of the vast majority of conservatives I know (fortunately), and I certainly no longer throw the raw meat of any serious opposition opinions to the self-righteous who control things here.
Many who might have provided financial support have literally been run off or banned, but an even greater number, I believe, have simply been alienated. The folks who run the site – officially and unofficially – are, of course, free to do so however they want, but it is naive to then also expect, after creating so much divisiveness, that a wide swath of conservatives are going to pony up donations out of a sense of good will.
77 posted on Friday, April 27, 2012 9:47:28 AM by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
Unfortunately the tipping point has been reached.
Asking for more and more money – from fewer and fewer folks. Many who used to contribute, both money and commentary, have left, been banned, or have gone into lurk mode for reasons that have been well laid out.
88 posted on Friday, April 27, 2012 9:54:33 AM by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever.)
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JimRob bootlicker DJ MacWoW shows up to try to justify every banning as Socialist Anti-Freepers! But that story don’t sell…
To: DJ MacWoW
Continuing to support a socialist on FR is against the rules. There has also been outside influences at work here. It’s called trolling. The aim is to destroy FR. Why FReepers want to help that goal is beyond me but they are being influenced.
That boat won’t float. All the problems come from within this site. People know they have to fall in line or pay a price for it. These are self inflicted wounds.
89 posted on Friday, April 27, 2012 9:55:27 AM by fml
To: DJ MacWoW
“Anti-freepers and the left want FR silenced. Why are you trying to help them?”
There is nothing so silent on FR as the zotted conservatives. But at least it felt good to ban them, I guess? And celebrate with a zot thread after? Good job–anti-freepers and the left couldn’t have done it better.
90 posted on Friday, April 27, 2012 9:55:36 AM by MizSterious (Now that Perry’s out, I guess I’ll just have to vote for “Generic Republican Candidate”)
To: DJ MacWoW
There has also been outside influences at work here. It’s called trolling. The aim is to destroy FR.
You wanna know who is ruining FR? You and your ping list buddies.
111 posted on Friday, April 27, 2012 10:08:19 AM by Drew68
To: DJ MacWoW
“Jim Robinson runs FR. I have pinged no one. Not even him.”
Maybe not this time but you know as well as I and everyone else on this forum that you are a primary member of a ping list that contributes very little in terms of actual political discourse and seems to exist only to police the site and badger other Freepers who don’t “toe the line”. This ping list has succeeded in getting many decent conservative contributing Freepers banned and driven many more from the site altogether.
DJ, I’m going to tell you something and it might be painful but sometimes the truth hurts. Wanna know something? When you and your ping list succeed in getting me zotted from FR, I’ll be able to go to any other conservative site on the internet, register under my current post name and be welcomed with open arms. You and your friends cannot. You may be feared here but on conservative forums outside of FR, you are loathed and mocked.
You can change if you want to, you know this, right?
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mojitojoe moves between being afraid to speak (yet all he posts are racist animated gifs…) and blaming all dissent on liberal trolls
What in the wide, wide world of sports is going on?
My guess: liberal concern trolls posing as Freepers. Voting to get rid of the Kenyan has become a no-no on FR.
186 posted on 04/27/2012 8:43:01 AM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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Champion of awful ping lists TheOldLady shows up to try to impress JimRob
To: Ace of Spades; Jim Robinson
Give voluntarily or not at all.
Your contributions do not give you control of this site.
It is not your site to do with as you please, and you are not the boss of Jim Robinson (courtesy ping).
You want to make suggestions, fine. You want to lord it over everyone here and run this site yourself, FReep you!
If you don’t like it here, there are plenty of other sites where I’m sure they’d love to hear your carping about someone else’s principles.
You and your “piling on” posse are just a bunch of disruptor trolls. We know ‘em when we see ‘em.
187 posted on Friday, April 27, 2012 10:44:40 AM by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
snowrip is going to take his ball and go home
Jesus Harvey frigging Christ.
I was going to double my monthly donation, but I don’t think I will.
By the looks of how this thread on fundraising has turned into a hair-pulling catfight where it has become more important for everyone to show just how hurt their feelings are, this site is finished. Jim should just hit the RESET button and start over after a six-month vacation.
This is not to say FR is without blame. Keeping ping lists on people who speak about their support for a republican you don’t like, then banning them for their beliefs, is gutless and idiotic if it is indeed happening.
207 posted on 04/27/2012 8:56:36 AM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? You are a socialist idiot with no rational argument.)
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FYI – GOPE is “GOP Establishment”
To: Ace of Spades
Go zot yourself. I can’t do it, nor do I want to. If you’re so miserable here and cannot bear the principles of the site owner, just leave. No one is stopping you.
This is a biased site. Advocating for someone with an anti-Conservative record like Gov. Romney’s is not allowed here. But to answer your question, yes. Free discussion is allowed here. If you want to point out the advantages of Conservatism and the errors and destruction of liberal progressivism, have at it, and welcome. But please do not pretend for a moment that Romney is a conservative, for he is not. He IS Obama lite as Jim has pointed out countless times with references to his voting and governing records, and YouTube videos of the socialism spewing out of his own mouth, which he later denies having said, but there it is for all the world to see. Why don’t you see it?
The candidacy of Gov. Romney is what Conservatives get for caving to the leftist GOPE all these years with their leftist candidates. Squishy centrists always lose to the real leftists, and strong Conservatives always win.
So, who do they field? Dole? GH Bush? McCain? And now Romney? Designated losers, all. McCain even admitted it in so many words, “You have nothing to fear from an Obama presidency.” And he allowed his advisers to destroy Gov. Palin, who was in the process of saving his campaign when all the made-up “dirt” came out about her. Republicans under the GOPE lose the presidency, and all goes back to business as usual in Washington, where the Republican and Democrat elites have their little soirees and hobnob and rub elbows with their leftist cohorts in the big Washington Power Cabal.
It’s disgusting, and we must stop it before it destroys us. See? That is why we are so passionate about this issue.
233 posted on 04/27/2012 9:13:22 AM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
DJ MacWoW’s fellow bootlicker onyx is also on scene to claim a liberal conspiracy from Anti-Freepers
To: snowrip; 2ndDivisionVet; re_nortex
2ndDivisionVet’s wonderfully intentioned thread was unfortunately invaded by disgruntled posters early on and a better representation is offered here in post #174, by re_nortex.
There’s a lot of untruths on this thread, in the form of opinions, that are allegedly fact without foundation or basis.
References to “ping lists” without naming the Ping Lists or the holders of those ping lists.
I hold and ping Sarah Palin’s Ping List, and also, Jim’s FReepathon Ping List along with all members of his FReepathon Team.
266 posted on 04/27/2012 9:30:02 AM PDT by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin’s Ping List, let me know.)
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Jim Robinson arrives to yell at the masses
To: mojitojoe; Ace of Spades; jveritas; Peter from Rutland; norwaypinesavage; wtc911; …
Those of you who have been reading FR for all these years and are acting shocked that I would not support Romney must have missed my hundreds of posts on our purposes here.
Just a reminder:
FR is and will remain until my dying day a pro-life, pro-family, pro-gun, pro-limited government, pro-constitution, pro-liberty, pro-tea party site.
Romney is none of the above.
Plus he lies a lot.
Obama is the very worst Democrat ever. Romney is the very worst Republican ever.
Either way we get the very worst for America.
FR has been in anti-RINO rebellion mode since RudyMcRomney hit the presidential scene six or seven years ago. We made an exception for McCain in 2008 because he was at least pro-life, a veteran, and he chose Sarah Palin, but we all swore we’d never make that mistake again.
How soon we forget.
Anyone who thinks I will support an abortionist, homosexualist, gun-grabbing, liberal judge appointing, mandate loving Keynesian statist for president, obviously does not know me. At all.
If my anti-abortion, anti-homosexualist, anti-statist stand causes some of our long term members to leave us, I hope we can at least part as FRiends.
In that spirit I leave you with this message:
364 posted on Fri Apr 27 2012 12:13:35 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time) by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is on!!)
How about some more empty speeches from the boss?
Romney is no conservative. Never has been. Never will be. Hell, he’s not even a Republican. Don’t listen to his lies, look at his RECORD.
I will not vote for or support an abortionist, homosexualist statist for president. Period.
We are the resistance!!
Rebellion is on!!
408 posted on Fri Apr 27 2012 11:39:46 GMT-0600 (Mountain Daylight Time) by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is on!!)
Dengar01 arrives to the fight guns blazing…
To: JoeProBono; DJ MacWoW; TheOldLady; onyx; Jim Robinson; Impy; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy; STARWISE; …
Congrats for proving the point of almost everyone on this thread. You signed up in 2008 and are calling for the zotting of members dating back to 1997? Who the hell are you?
How DARE you tarnish the reputation of people who did the work when you weren’t here. During Monica Lewinsky, Bush/Gore, 9/11, WOT, Support our Troops, Gary Condit, Rathergate, Bush/Kerry???
Shame on you…
To those I pinged, FReeper JoeProPono and his insulting replies via pictures to FReepers here from Day 1 is why people are afraid to post or have left.
This ain’t about Romney, never was, this was people like FReeper ProJoeBono registered in 2008 who decided him and a few others would take this site by storm by mocking people here who maybe going through hell in their normal lives.
I lost my mother in 2008 when I was 25 you think a day after her death I’d like to be mocked by FReeper JoeProBono, there are several members in my family dying of cancer, do you think I enjoy coming here to be mocked by FReeper JoeProBono who JOINED IN 2008 THE YEAR OF THE OBAMA!!!
Do what you want. But I’ve NEVER supported Romney, most who left or quit posting never supported Romney.
They just didn’t want to come to a place they called home, where there were prayer concern threads, blow off steam threads, ect… to be mocked and humiliated by a gutter rat like FREEPER JOEPROBONO REGISTERED 2008
412 posted on 04/27/2012 10:43:04 AM PDT by Dengar01 (Go Bulls!!! Go White Sox!!!)
Ace of Spades, MizSterious, and fml say goodbyes…
To: Jim Robinson
Jim, your resistance is falling apart due to desertions and summary executions. And you have nobody to blame but yourself.
Your stand is well-documented and I haven’t seen a single person here who disagrees with the core of it.
But this site has become a pale shadow of what it once was. Once conservatives of varying degrees were free to discuss openly and intelligently. Now anyone who diverges even slightly from the mob’s opinion is openly insulted, often by you personally, often in disgusting and degrading terms.
Why anyone of even moderate intelligence would want to be a part of this anymore is beyond me. I do not. Please disable my account.
423 posted on 04/27/2012 10:48:22 AM PDT by Ace of Spades (Sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes?) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 364 | View Replies]
To: Jim Robinson
Well, Jim, my old friend, it’s time to part ways. You can go ahead and “zot” me as well. I’ve been thinking about this situation here, and it seems to me I’ve been sitting on the fence. You’re right. Rebellion IS afoot. I can no longer support any site or any person who is openly working to keep the illegal alien, communist dictator wannabe Obama in office.
My ancestors who fought in the Revolutionary War, and just about every war ever since, did not fight, and in some cases die, so that a dangerous fraud like Obama can take our country down. A conservative site that won’t support the Republican on the ballot—well, it’s something else, not conservative.
I think it’s time to thank you for all the many good discussions over the years, wish you the best, and say goodby.
However, to most of the mods, I can only say, glad to be on my way. I will not miss these, not one bit.
430 posted on 04/27/2012 10:51:51 AM PDT by MizSterious (Now that Perry’s out, I guess I’ll just have to vote for “Generic Republican Candidate”)
To: Jim Robinson
No problem this will be my last post.
You don’t answer my questions so how can I like your responses?
You just drone on and on totally unaware of your surroundings, that’s cool. Your stuck on LIFE right?, whatever the heck that means. I guess it beats stuck on stupid.
Living in the past is not a guarantee of future success btw.
536 posted on Friday, April 27, 2012 2:51:01 PM by fml
Others realize the infighting is hurting the cause, and the champions of zots do nothing besides call for more zots
This thread is the very evidence of why this site is no longer the conservative site of choice to donate to or post in. This site is no longer conservative. Good FReepers are sick of the gestapo IN clique that sickly controls and attacks anyone that does not tow their every thought. Many are afraid to post. It was out of hand months ago and now it is just down right abusive hateful behavior. They ping each other to bully someone and then ping a special list to WATCH the zot? If the time spent that they waste doing this was put towards exposing fast and furious or REAL activism this site would be booming again.
I watched Perry,Bachmann,Santorum get trashed by the IN CROWD CLIQUE. And now the IN clique gestapo ping list has the audacity to act as if Newt Gingrich is any different than Romney? Both Gingrich and Romney are reformed RINO’s.AKA GOP e.
Have you ever noticed the IN crowd clique never posts in other conservative threads? Why does it seem like they post in the FReepathon thread with cutesy graphics while they are attacking like banshees from hell in all other threads?
I am sick of the long winded speeches saying Romney is pro abortion when three pro life, damned good, conservative candidates were trashed ON THIS FORUM like DU trolls trash conservatives.Go look at Romney’s official issues. He is pro life now. Just like Gingrich is pro-life now. They both reformed supposedly.What makes one better than the other? And don’t waste time posting long posts with links of how evil and bad Romney is. I could do the same exact thing with Gingrich and the facts would be found in this forums archives.
537 posted on 04/27/2012 11:51:18 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
To: Jim Robinson; Raider Sam; Drew68; mel; Roccus; ronniesgal; speedy; Dengar01; Jedidah
Nobody is shocked that you refuse to support MR as the GOP nominee. Most, if not all of us here fully understand and agree.
The rebellion you are seeing on this thread is not against you or your position on Mitt.
The rebellion is against those here who clothe themselves in your position and villify any freeper who sees a different path to saving the country.
The Mitt thing is just the most recent cause celebre for these folks. Before that it was Newt or Santorum or Cain or Bachmann or Palin (where it started). They hide in your shadow and attack those who they feel you would disagree with – sometimes in the vilest manner (accusations of NAMBLA membership, death wishes…). They ping their compadres and it becomes a relentless mugging.
These freepers seem to feel empowered as long as they can say – “The boss says this” or “This is Jim’s site and he says…”. They feel that their hand will not be slapped, regardless of how flagrantly and frequently they violate posting rules.
It is these freepers, not your opinions, that have driven good freepers away.
I pinged those who have agreed with me on this thread. They are all good, long-term freepers and there are a couple with whom I have never communicated before in 11 years here.
It would be a mis-reading if you were to take this as a personal affront. It is not. It is a revolt against those who act in your name, to the ultimate detriment of your site.
542 posted on 04/27/2012 11:54:22 AM PDT by wtc911 (Amigo – you’ve been had.)
To: DJ MacWoW; Jim Robinson
No. You have the right to either donate or not. You do not have the right to call his principles into question on HIS site. He has been the head of FR for 15 years. There have been other wars and principled stands. And it will happen again.
Can you point out exactly where ANYONE has called Jim’s PRINCIPLES into question?
His judgement and strategy have been challenged. Can you see the difference?
616 posted on 04/27/2012 12:38:09 PM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever.)
Oh, and just in case you think Dengar01 is a hero and not a crazy racist, (and don’t forget his Freepossible Mission!)
To: DJ MacWoW; JoeProBono
Yeah Joe please accept my apology I got your picture confused with humblegunner. The Down’s picture was personally offensive whereas your pictures are humorous.
I’m venting just because I’m sick of those personally attacking and I’m not talking about the Romney people.
But over anything. People were attacking like a Travyon gang on the American Idol thread. And they continue to do this to this day.
Like I said I voted for Rick Santorum, and I’ve repeatedly said my current goal is fighting the recall against Governor Walker.
I just am pissed about the personal attacks. Very childish, makes the poster seem uneducated as they can’t debate using rhetorical responses, they use F bombs or pictures of retarded children. Guess that just reflects how they are as a person.
622 posted on 04/27/2012 12:40:07 PM PDT by Dengar01 (Go Bulls!!! Go White Sox!!!)
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Lalalalallalalalala! Rebellion is ON!!
What ever will be will be. But I’m not voting for or supporting an abortionist, homosexualist, statist like Romney for president. I’m not putting up a yard sign for him at my home or on my website. If this costs us some support, so be it.
And this should be no surprise to anyone. I’ve been stating it up front and center every day for the last six years or more. NO ROMNEY!!
Rebellion is ON!!
629 posted on Friday, April 27, 2012 2:44:12 PM by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is on!!)
I don’t know what’s going on in this bigheadfred quote, but it’s probably an argument for socialized medicine…
To: Jim Robinson
My investment is my commitment to Jesus Christ.
Not to one thing it or otherwise political.
My daddy taught me a very very important thing. And in that I DO excel.
I wish not to violate your posting rules. At least this time.
I don’t need an investment in lead. I need other peeples.
I only need my .270 and one round.
And that is the joke right?
My son is shooting at a bull elk. My brother starts shooting at that bull elk. Then my brother looks at me and says “Pat. DO SOMETHING.”
I said said “GIVE ME YOUR GUN”.
And that is the joke, right?
All your lead, guns or money can’t and will not instill the DESIRE to do the right thing.
I don’t flip flop.
My commitment is to Jesus Christ.
Within the parameters of my physical existence there are certain challenges being presented to me.
Granted, I really do not know you. But you are THIS.
Jesus us told me things will end badly. Jesus told me the meek will inherit the earth.
So here is the thing. I have two absolutely beautiful grandchildren.
I’d just as soon they are the meek that inherits this earth.
I have made that decision. I made it 40 years ago. I just didn’t completely realize that until I met them.
Yeah. Couched in not such blatant terms. But when that moment comes, the desire to do that right thing WILL BECOME THE THING THAT IS DONE.
And may GOD forgive me.
756 posted on Fri Apr 27 14:11:48 2012 by bigheadfred (MY PET TAPEWORM (OBIWAN) IS AN INSANE MILITARY HATING LEFTIST)
JimRob plays the victim himself!
Yes, I had support but was also persecuted, harangued, and insulted daily by those with Palin derangement syndrome. Finally zotted a few of them after Palin said she would not run, yet they continued to harass her and her supporters. And yes I am aware that the same thing happened to those who supported Bachmann, Cain, Perry, Santorum and Gingrich. I stated many times that I would be happy with any one of those conservatives and unsuccessfully cautioned people not to drive them all out. Every support group from every candidate viciously attacked the supporters of other groups.
Very few clean hands in this fiasco. I told the complainers that it would have to run its course. Though I feared it’d end up the way it did. Too many wannabe conservatives in the race, only one rich lying GOP officially backed and anointed RINO. He is the one they’ve been waiting for.
759 posted on 04/27/2012 2:17:46 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is on!!)
Not everyone is rebelling…
2ndDivisionVet, I just wanted to tell you how much I appreciate your very well-intentioned post. I’m disappointed, as are you I am sure, with what it has deteriorated into.
You stated that we need to put the FReepathon to bed, and because it is moving slowly, “The DUmmies, Morons, Kos Kiddies and that crew are laughing up their sleeves.” As they’ve watched this thread unfold, I imagine they have moved on from their sleeves and are now laughing their asses off.
I’m sorry this hasn’t turned out the way you had hoped, and again thank you for encouraging financial support from your fellow FReepers. I’m pretty sure I have seen a couple of donations up thread, so “Kudos” to you and to them.
Finally, if I haven’t done so in the past, I want to thank you for defending our country with your military service. God bless you, and God bless America.
775 posted on Fri Apr 27 2012 16:37:37 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time) by deoetdoctrinae (Gun-free zones are playgrounds for felons)
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LibLieSlayer screams about the GOPE
Deek they hate us. We do not have a seat at the table today. We will not have a seat at the table at the convention… unless war on the floor breaks out. The only way that we can make ourselves a seat at the table is if we cause enough problems and are loud enough to inflict enough pain on the gop/e that they will finally take us as a serious and indispensable part of the gop. Right now they despise us… they call us names and make fun of our movements (TEA Party). The recent gop/e meeting that took place is replete with evidence to prove what I say is true. Rush Limbaugh has said that he has personally been told by gop leaders that they despise us… that they are embarrassed by us… that they do not want us at their events or conventions… that their “wives are embarrassed to be seen with them”. They hate us for being moral and trying to obey GOD’s laws… they hate us because “we hold certain truths to be self evident”… their truth is in power and money.
The only way to win is to emulate what the left has done… they have made themselves so loud and formed things like the green party and backed people like ralph nader and lost some elections… but today… they stand on the cusp of instituting Stalin’s dream. The gop is not our party… they do not represent us… they do not like us… but they must have our votes and our money… we demand a seat at the table… we have been denied and lied to long enough. Goldwater and Reagan forced us a place at the table… but then our chair was given to moderates and independents and pro abortionists and gay activists and yes… mexican invaders.
918 posted on Fri Apr 27 2012 18:54:52 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time) by LibLieSlayer (Pray hard and often!)
W-Girl throws down the gauntlet with the post of the thread.
To: Jim Robinson; All
My story –
I joined FR in Nov 2005 and my last post was Dec 2011, prior to this one. I joined all the others here today who have finally been able to voice their opinion without being instantly banned, ambushed, embarrassed or rudely ridiculed.
I always enjoyed reading the threads and posts, more than commenting myself, for the information, of those who may not be familiar with my pen name. My favorite hang out was always the Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread but I expressed my dismay in December 2011 to the host of the site, AB, and asked him to stop sending me pings. At that time, I expressed how horrified I was at the vicious and vile attacks against other members and the primary candidates who were not “PURE” to the powers that be here.
My views on the Republican primaries has always been ABO because I have children and grandchildren and wanted better for them like my parents wanted better for me. I consider Obama and the Progressives a bigger threat to this Country than Osama Bin Laden ever was. Yes, I was disappointed that some of the serious Republicans out there did not enter the race, but to be honest, I never thought Palin was a serious candidate. My candidate eventually became Romney because it became clear, he was the only one able to defeat Obama with the organization and money that it takes to run a general election. So that is where I stand politically.
I also, as my name may indicate, still support G W Bush and have not appreciated the vile opinions against him on FR. I believe he will, in years to come along with Cheney, be appreciated and recognized for the strong foundation and intelligence they created after 9/11 that still keeps us safe to this day. He was a modest man and should have spoken up for himself and not let the Progressives lie and define him. Maybe we would not have Obama today if he would not have worn himself out so soon.
To Jim Robinson and All His Czars –
I realize the purpose of this thread is to raise money so let me express my views on the finances here.
I have contributed in the past, when I naively assumed, the place was some sort of non-profit membership organization with transparency. It is only recently, that I learned, the place is set up as a privately 100% LLC owned by Jim Robinson with NO transparency. He provides only a “BUGDET” in other words meaningless information. The Budget “said” $1,200 (last time I looked) now it says $1,000 is required every quarter for legal and accounting services. For that kind of money, you would think you would get something more than a meaningless budget. SO HOW MUCH DOES JIM ROBINSON REALLY COLLECT HERE ??? It appears he does a good job of BEGGING for money but he is not honest enough to report how much he “actually” collects and what his “actual” expenses are. So my next question is HOW MUCH DOES JIM ROBINSON STICK IN HIS POCKET and pay his loyal czars to keep their mouth’s shut ?? Without any transparency on the finances, we can only assume, it is paying off BIG for Jim Robinson and his ELITE SUPPORTERS & workers !!
The “Budget” also shows $13,500 in administration, management and taxes which appears to be 46% of the budgeted expenses. Does no one, but me, dare to ask what the hell that is ?? If total revenues are over $300,000 on an annual basis, then 46% of $300,000 or over $300,000 is a serious slush fund to the owner when some donors state they donate “small amouts” because that is all they can afford.
Another point on FR finances and vulgar attacks on Romney. How many of you know Jim Robinson is also on Twitter under the name of @DEFEAT ROMNEY ?? It’s set up as a Spam account because there are posts made on this twitter site every few minutes 24/7 over 58,000 tweets last time I looked. How much money is diverted from FR donations to support the technology to spam tweets 24/7 against Romney ?? Most of the tweets against Romney, like here, are made up lies more vile, vulgar and disgusting than any Obama loving Marxist could post.
I expect my post to be deleted. But, I would ask all those who do donate here to reconsider what they think they are supporting. I believe Jim Robinson has gone off the deep end and taken others who are easily swayed, senile or are monetarily benefiting with him !!
I no longer have any respect for Jim Robinson. I believe he is a “purest” hypocrite, he obviously likes YOUR MONEY but DOESN’T WANT your opinions if they are NOT the same as his.
I say, in closing, SHUT THE PLACE DOWN !! It will never be the same and it has turned into a VILE, VULGAR and DISGUSTING place to visit thanks to the “owner” !!
There is a BIG difference between Romney and Obama and I will do my best to defeat Obama !! I just never thought I would be working against the HATEFUL FEW on Free Republic.
1,057 posted on Friday, April 27, 2012 9:46:09 PM by W-Girl
Tempers are still flaring…
You know, sir, you are an insufferable rectal aperture, and a blot, a fetid stain, on the reputation of freerepublic. And your ping-buddies too, who run around with you ganging up on members.
I have nothing but the utmost respect and admiration for Jim Robinson, who was the first to give this other side a voice apart from the left-controlled media and culture—and such a very loud voice it has been; we are all indebted to Jim Robinson and freerepublic for that—but it’s never been the same since uncouth boors like you came aboard, and it stymies me that your malodorous diarrheal presence is even tolerated here.
Perhaps it might help if you added fiber and roughage to your diet?
Like a dead rotten fish, sir, you shine and stink.
Your thuggish attitude makes even Helen Thomas look sackable; makes even haggis look edible, makes the excresence of pigs look aesthetic. Good God, it even makes nadinbrzezinski on Skins’s island look sexy.
1,060 posted on Sat Apr 28 2012 03:48:33 GMT+0200 (CEST) by franksolich (Scourge of the primitives)
“see you next Tuesday” is the response to W-Girl
“I realize the purpose of this thread is to raise money so let me express my views on the finances here.”
First, you need to learn what an LLC is.
Second, it is NUNYA (none of your business in case you live in Rio Linda)
Third, you can leave anytime you want to let the door knob great you on the way out.
Fourth you insult FReepers buy calling them czars?
Fifth, see you next Tuesday
1,108 posted on 04/27/2012 7:26:45 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio – http://www.istandwithrush.org/) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1088 | View Replies]
Someone only makes $361 a month and wants to donate half their church tithes to Jim. Any normal person would refuse money from someone who desperately needs it.
I will likely donate half my tithes for this month when my $361 social security check posts on my bank.
I’m still praying about it, however as there’s a lot of other things seeking the same measley amount.
And . . . welll I’m praying about it.
I sometimes get tired of being treated with undeserved hostility and disrespect by a couple of the mods who seem to hate me with a blood lust level of hostility.
1,109 posted on 04/27/2012 7:26:45 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin’ INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
Quix posts a lot of things like this:
To: vox_freedom; Alamo-Girl; Amityschild; AngieGal; AnimalLover; Ann de IL; aposiopetic; aragorn; …
I do not believe
that a single authentically conservative FREEPER
wants to or is compromising
a SINGLE CORE CONSERVATIVE VALUE
WE ALL STILL FIERCLY SUPPORT:
1. THE CONSTITUTION
2. THE REPUBLIC AND STATES RIGHTS
3. BEARING ARMS
4. FREEDOM OF RELIGION VS FROM RELIGION
5. RIGHT TO LIFE
6. SMALL GOVERNMENT
7. FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND THE PRESS
8. NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION
9. NO SURRENDER OF SOVEREIGNTY TO GLOBALISM
10. UN OUT OF THE USA
11. NO SATANISM
12. NO ISLAM TAKING OVER THE USA; NO SHARIA LAW
NO ONE I KNOW ON FR is anything but wholeheartedly behind and in support of those CORE CONSERVATIVE VALUES.
Claiming otherwise is untrue, inaccurate, cheeky and foolish.
1,119 posted on 04/27/2012 7:34:58 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin’ INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1113 | View Replies]
Jim says “Heck yeah I need all this money! But no budget for you!”
To: W-Girl; onyx; trisham; TheOldLady; DJ MacWoW; JoeProBono; RedMDer; musicman; Lady Jag; MEG33; …
That is my compensation plus Amy’s and Chris’ who works here part time helping me and learning the ropes (ie, Management and Administration) plus a part of our related payroll tax expenses.
I’m sure there are probably others who might be able to run a site as large as FR for fewer bucks (maybe), but they’ll probably need to be independently wealthy if they don’t take compensation and thus they’re probably not really interested in running a donor based grassroots organization. Nor will they put in the hours I do.
Thank you very much!!
And this just in:
$366.00 from Michigan
$50.00 from North Carolina
Thank you very much, Michigan and North Carolina!!
And we’re now over THIRTY-TWO percent!!
With that, we’re going to dinner. Will bbl.
OPEN ALL NIGHT!!
1,134 posted on Friday, April 27, 2012 7:48:16 PM by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is on!!)
Jim then departs for Olive Garden or wherever as the thread continues…
Bigun is saddened…
To: McLynnan; Jim Robinson
I’m sad to see what FR has become and truly miss what it used to be. If I get zotted for speaking my mind that is fine, I don’t post anymore and rarely read the comments because who wants to read the same thought over and over again. There isn’t any free speech on FR these days and I am not into having free opinion stifled. Reading the same “approved” opinions over and over again is boring.
I have not read the entire thread. I cannot. TOO painful. I found this post which expresses my felling very well and will tag a few thoughts on.
I LOVED this place for a very long time and once said that I had never met a Freeper I didn’t like. You, your wife, and son are among those folks Jim and nothing has changed in that regard as far as you are concerned but, sad as it is, those days are gone and it saddens me more than you can imagine. I very much preferred the FR of 1998 (flame wars and all) to the FR of today. Back then this was a crucible where ideas of every stripe were melted down and refined. Today it is nothing more than a boring echo chamber and I have rarely posted on the main forum for quite some time now.
This place belongs to you Jim and you have every right to do with it as you wish. I have never said anything other than that from day one but I must confess to you that I no longer find FR WORTH contributing to sad as that is. And one more thing before I go. I don’t like Mitt Romney any better than you do but I WILL vote for him in November! The alternative is just too horrible to contemplate.
If you are in a bannin mood it would appear that you have lot of work to do.
1,137 posted on Friday, April 27, 2012 9:53:01 PM by Bigun (“The most fearsome words in the English language are I’m from the government and I’m here to help!”)
and ladyvet throws a bucket of water of reality into his face…
Too bad he doesn’t really give a crap what you think. He posted money coming in and went to dinner.
1,144 posted on Friday, April 27, 2012 10:00:00 PM by ladyvet ( I would rather have Incitatus then the asses that are in congress today.)
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Plenty of Freepers see the folly of the poor sending away their money…And Wolfstar posts actual server costs for people to see they don’t cost anywhere near the $94,000 Jim wants this quarter
I will likely donate half my tithes for this month when my $361 social security check posts on my bank.
Quix…my Lord!!!! Don’t spend a penny here. Use that $361 a month for things you need or, if you must, give to your church or other local charity.
Don’t you know what a fraud FR has become? $94,000 a calendar quarter for a website?! That’s $376,000 a year. I have worked in the information systems field since 1988, so know whereof I speak.
Where is the public accounting? Where are these supposed new servers we keep hearing about? Do you know that Dell PowerEdge enterprise-class servers (to use one example) are cheap? You can buy rack-type servers for as low as $599, tower-type servers for $399, and blade servers for $1034. Dell’s high-end servers start at $4360. In other words, about $10,000 to $15,000 will buy two top-of-the-line servers. So where are they?
Here’s a link to Dell’s server web page. People can research this information for themselves.
FR’s programming is 1996-vintage. It does not need massive enterprise-class servers to run. In addition, web hosting costs have come way, way down since 1996.
The low-end $399 Dell server has up to absolutely massive 12TB(squared) of storage. That’s terabytes. One terabyte = 1000 gigabytes, or 1 trillion bytes. Even if they’ve saved every thread ever started on FR since 1996, and every private message, no way would such simple HTML data consume the storage of two servers, each with 12TB*squared) storage.
Please, Quix, your $361 is much more important in your real life than it is on this fantasy called Free Republic.
1,165 posted on Friday, April 27, 2012 10:13:50 PM by Wolfstar
This might be the first Freepathon that goes negative!
To: TheOldLady; onyx; DJ MacWoW; Jim Robinson
I was new last year (donated each quarter). Was ambushed by insider clique, zotted, etc after posting support for Rick Perry (and not so hot for S Palin). The handles I see here are very familiar—delighting to jump into the ambush. Am conservative. I’d like my $20.00 returned. Thank you so much, you so civil crowd. Where’s Windflier and Finny BTW?
1,181 posted on 04/27/2012 8:29:53 PM PDT by famousday
Wolfstar has some gauntlets of his own!
The real question is what do you stand for…
Ummm…no, sugarplum, that’s not the “real” question. If there is a question about stands, it has already been answered. The core FR crowd is for Obama’s reelection. Simple.
You know darn right well what conservatism is and don’t bother playing games here with me about it. God given inalienable rights, as our Founding Founders understood, stated, fought for and died for, as embodied in the Declaration of Independence.
It’s as I thought. You don’t know how to define “real” conservatism, so you attack. Shrug.
You should learn a little history, though. The Founders were not whatever the modern interpretation of “real” conservatives is according to FR. The modern terms “conservative” and “liberal” didn’t exist 236 years ago and have no application to the Founders or the times in which they lived. They were men and women of The Enlightenment. They were — horrors — the elites and intellectuals of their day. Their ideas were truly radical for the time. In fact, in the period and context in which they were created, both the Declaration and Constitution were the most radical political documents ever written.
The core cabal here at FR hasn’t a clue about what the kind of radicalism of the Founders means even in our times, let alone how critical it is for us to conserve the Founders’ ideas and legacy. What is on display at FR these days is an ugly totalitarian impulse that is the antithesis of their legacy.
Go ahead. Ping your little coven of nasties. Have me “zotted.” Makes not a whit of difference to me. You people don’t pay my bills, or put a roof over my head, or do anything of substance in my life. You haven’t got the intellectual firepower to go toe-to-toe with me in a debate, nor the simple comprehension that it would take to figure out that what you people are is anything but politically akin to the Founders.
1,257 posted on 04/27/2012 9:29:36 PM PDT by Wolfstar
And now, ansel12 throws out the most fucked up statement of the thread (bolding mine):
LOL, for some reason I can imagine you choking kittens to death with one hand, as you type about freerepublic with the other, in a quietly hateful rage that you find erotic.
You have a style that seems reminiscent of the old Giuliani days here when the anti-God crowd was so vocal.
1,293 posted on 04/27/2012 9:52:35 PM PDT by ansel12
Everyone is like “WTF? Project much?”
Read her posts on this thread, they are among the most twisted that I have ever seen here.
Something weird is going on her mind.
YOU’RE imagining a person choking kittens in an erotic way ………… and you’re accusing THEM of being twisted and weird???????????????????????????????????????????
1,349 posted on 04/27/2012 10:26:29 PM PDT by alicewonders
To: ansel12; Wolfstar
Which parts of her posts to you find most useful, insightful, accurate, respectful to the owner and to the site that this thread is about?
I think that a lot of posts on this thread tonight have been a long time coming. I know they have been for me. Your post about choking kittens was particularly disturbing to me – like you were projecting your own warped thoughts.
Now you’re trying to deflect it to Wolfstar – but your post is there for everyone to see. Creepy stuff.
1,381 posted on 04/27/2012 11:04:05 PM PDT by alicewonders
Though ansel12 seems have gone completely insane now:
Now you’re trying to deflect it to Wolfstar – but your post is there for everyone to see.
There is no freeper named Wolfstar, but I can tell you that he would think that you have tried to toally reverse reality.
1,385 posted on 04/27/2012 11:09:42 PM PDT by ansel12
Wolfstar continues to stir the pot…
To: exit82; Jim Robinson
You know the truth about the equipment being ordered.
I do? That’s news to me. Somebody must have slipped that “truth” right by me.
If you can get the equipment so much cheaper…
Hey…anyone got around $400 to spare can go to the Dell website themselves and buy an enterprise-class server with tons of capability. It’s no mystery. It’s not hard. And I should think $94,000 should cover two of them pretty darned easily. Ain’t rocket science.
Oh, wait. Scratch that last. Forgot that FR is anti science. Ooops. My bad.
Now what was that about a case of projection? Oh yeah…I warned some poor soul with $361 living money to not spend a penny here, and gave sound, factual, independent reasons as to why. That drew your venom because you projected it as a threat to…what, exactly. Hmmmm…? If FR and its core nasties can’t handle simple human decency, well maybe it has outlived its usefulness.
1,304 posted on 04/27/2012 9:57:04 PM PDT by Wolfstar
And JimRob zots him!
If you don’t like the way we operate FR, just leave. Sheesh.
1,380 posted on 04/27/2012 11:01:43 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is on!!)
Here is the Zot ping list (one of the ping lists that are ruining the site that were denied earlier in the thread) celebration of the zotting of Wolfstar and another freeper. Packed with animated gifs and dumb.
To: Second Amendment First
“I used to think the FR community would be the people whom I could trust in a revolution. Now, I would be afraid of being shot in the back.”
…by a clutch of squawking shrews shooting blanks with lousy aim. :::shivers:::
1,453 posted on 04/28/2012 6:18:01 AM PDT by NautiNurse [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1441 | View Replies]
Have the costs of FR ever been posted? It is a simple forum web site. How much does it cost to run?
Well there is a “budget”. I think the GSA has one of those too. : ),
But then let there be no mistake, Free Republic is a privately held Limited Liability Corporation for profit entity so is under no obligation to disclose its actual financials to anyone save for the IRS and the State of California. Then again, it operates much like a not for profit in that all income is generated from “donations”. So it would be nice to see an actual working budget and an actual budget vs. actual expenses posted. I don’t think that’s too much to ask for when asking for donations. I think a lot of us (especially the bean counters like me) would be a lot more comfortable donating if we had a better idea of how the donations were actually spent. Not that I think that Jim and others who run the site aren’t entitled to an income, nor would it matter if that figure was known, but the budget is so lacking in any sort of detail as to make it meaningless.
For instance, there is a line item in the budget for “Travel Expenses” at $1,200 per month. Really? $14,400.00 per year on travel? Why does an HTML website require $14,400.00 per year in travel expenses? That’s twice the amount budgeted for Equip, Maintenance and Repairs.
As far as the need for new servers and “equipment”, it would be nice to see a real estimate and detailed budget for what is actually needed. As someone else pointed out, commercial grade servers are pretty cheap now days. Heck my nephew in law recently bought a very nice used but relative new and working commercial grade server for a couple of hundred bucks off of eBay.
1,464 posted on 04/28/2012 6:46:14 AM PDT by MD Expat in PA [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1398 | View Replies]
To: Jim Robinson
I followed the “The donors are donors not owners. We don’t sell shares in the company. That would be a violation of securities law.”
But the “That’s not the way the founding fathers set it up, it’s just another way the Democrat tyrants (aided and abetted by the Republican tyrants) have of attempting to control us and deprive us of our God given rights to self-governance and the pursuit of Happiness (economic freedom). Look it up.”… I don’t follow.
The founding fathers created a nation, not a LLC.
Though, if you view donations as taxes, then the donors are kinda rebelling right now… saying “No taxation without representation”.
Now, I do understand that donations are voluntary. But with longtime (read: posters from the ’90s) posters getting ZOTTED left and right, many are leaving. That leaves you with a problem.
Which is that you now have a shrinking pool of people from which to request donations. And considering the site has lost roughly 10% of it’s traffic in the last three months, that problem is going to snowball.
Tie into that the fact that the Freepathons have slowed down quite a bit, and you’d have to conclude that those 10% you’ve lost contained a good number of your donors.
See your stats at: http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/freerepublic.com#trafficstats
1,480 posted on 04/28/2012 7:30:11 AM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1393 | View Replies]
Blackirish puts everyone on blast as well
it’s been a really long time since I posted. I stopped after the Giuliani purge a long time ago. I used to be a regular Freeper and post articles and comment a lot …I had FRiends here. Then the Guliani purge. Really this was nothing compared to that. If anyone posted a positive article on Rudy dozens of the same attack dogs would rip Rudy supporters. It was the same thing one pack of purists could not spew enough venom. It got so bad that I guess Jim just decided to end it all by having the famous bug zapper thread where lots and lots of cool posters were zotted while the anti-Rudy mob just kept cheering. I’m not sure why I wasn’t zotted but I didn’t opus out or anything I just left and thought I’d come back but never really did.
Well I guess it worked. The cool kids beat the shit out of the Rudy supporters got them zotted and then cheered while they were shown the door. I don’t think FR was ever really the same after that. Go back to that thread and see how many good Freepers were zotted, it’s lot’s and lot’s.
Well Rudy didn’t even try to run in so-con states and when he couldn’t win FL he was done. That left McCain who couldn’t punch himself out of wet paper bag and he got mopped up by the hopey changy fraud.
Had Rudy been the nominee during the crash he would have prolly beaten obama. Voters knew he could handle a crisis and he could also fight back unlike the hapless McCaine. But we’ll never know.
The SAME argument that was used against Guliani by the Purists is now being used against Romney. That a moderate Repub is WORSE then a a democrat because he’s a trojan horse ..slow poison… blah …blah …blah socialist…abortionist…blah blah the country and the GOP would be better off being taught a lesson…blah…blah.
Well the Purists got EXACTLY what they wanted. A FOR REAL,FOR REAL hard core leftist/feminist American hating, anti-capitalist who wants to “fundamentally change” this country.
Well it’s working. He’s willing to ruin the economic lives of a generation to reach the dims goal of some bizarre utopia where where we live on 15nth century technology …windmills and solar.
Have jack booted thugs running the EPA who want to “crucify” energy producers or anyone else who get’s in their way…..have any of you read about the obama enemies list who want to blackmail doners to the GOP?
Have mandated health care which was drafted by Nancy Pelosi.
We had a worthless trillion dollar stimulus drafted by Nancy Pelosi.
We now Krugman economic plan that we can never tax too much nor spend too much nor regulate enough.
There is no problem that can’t be solved by an army of bureaucrats with unlimited powers with a billion dollars of taxpayer money.
TSA thugs assaulting crippled children and little old ladies in wheelchairs.
Trample over the fundamental over the right of freedom of religion and if a peep is raised hysterically scream you’re declaring a “War on Woman” in fact make everything a “War on Woman”….a budget…student loans…you name it.
Sotomeyer more hard core feminests on courts.
And in his own words when he thought the mike was off “JUST WAIT TILL AFTER THE ELECTION”!!!!!!!
jeez! then he and michelle and nancy pelosi and kathryn seblelious can REALLY start kicking the shit out of us.
This was all just the warm up.
Well I have personally suffered under these maniacs. In 08 job was gone and at 50 years old I’m standing in line with my resume in a stupid suit behind 500 other guys. I’ve burned through my savings sold my car and have had to take shitty job after shitty job. I was making more money at 25. ..and then to get a job it was easy just ask around….now it’s …well. I’m not gonna get these years back.
To those who say Guliani or Bush or Romney would be the same or worse than obama have not personally suffered under this regime ..their retired or wealthy or who knows… I’m not sure if their posts are parody or clueless ..some even seem right out of DU. When you get far enough out there it can be hard to tell what side you’re on. …but they really seem pretty far left in wanting to “punish”…people who don’t think like them. They call Guliani and Romney marxists!! Has even one of them looked up the definition of Marxism or socialism??? Or is it a smear they use just like the left cries “racism” or “gay basher” to silence opposition?
There is a huge difference between Romney and a hard core like obama. At least we can hold Romney’s feet to the fire like we did W’s during the Miers fiasco. With obama all you’re gonna get is a boot in the face.
So when Romney say’s “hold on a little longer” “I’ll build the Keystone pipeline myself”
Heck I wanna give the guy a chance. …..NO WAY it could be worse….but that’s just me and I ain’t gonna change any minds here….bye
1,893 posted on Saturday, April 28, 2012 6:01:24 PM by Blackirish
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Col Freeper tells everyone not goosestepping behind JimRob to STFU
To: 2ndDivisionVet; Jim Robinson
Well 2DV, I finished reading this gnormous thread and have come to the following conclusion:
Jim might as well give up on FR. It’s days of remaining life are few in number.
Because there are literally hundreds of individuals who can take a couple of hundred dollars, buy a used server off E-Bay and Shazaam! — there will be hundreds of newer, better FRs.
And each and every one of them will immediately get ALL of the members currently contributing to, or freeloading from, FR to come over and sign up. These transferring individuals will all be able to sign-up at every one of the hundreds of newer, better FRs because — they won’t have to contribute any real money — the operating costs at every site will be so low.
Advertisers are guaranteed to fight each other to sign up to advertise at these newer, better FRs because — well just because they will! Everybody knows they will!
And everyone will get along wonderfully with each other at all of these wondrous new sites? After all the only reason people don’t get along on FR is because of Jim and his silly “principles”, that are forced on everyone by his jack-booted, brown-shirted “Mods”. The new sites will be la-la lands of smiling, happy customers, singing “cumbaya” and “If I could buy the world a Coke”!
So Jim might as well accept it and either give up and shut down FR completely, or accept the fact that FR will just become a backwater hobby site for him and John, with a few “far right wing crazies” posting about “Principles” and other things nobody really cares about when push comes to shove.
As best I can guess from reading all the posters on this thread, Jim has maybe 2-3 weeks before all the new and improved, “one-day to setup” FR sites blast their way onto the Innertoobs, and zoom their way up the web-site ratings charts.
Soooo, either FR and Jim’s efforts will soon die, or …. there are a lot of whining, complaining, wannabees who would rather just keep FR around, reading its content without contributing a cent, and spending their time telling Jim how they could do it better, faster, cheaper, with high quality -like the old days, yadda, yadda, yadda, and who will NEVER, EVER get around to actually firing up those hundreds of newer, better FRs.
But, surely they really, really mean to get those $200 sites fired up pronto, don’t you think 2DV?
Let’s keep our eye out for these new FRs. If you spot them first, let me know, and I’ll do the same for you, ok?
1,974 posted on Saturday, April 28, 2012 7:10:21 PM by Col Freeper (FR is a smorgasbord of Conservative thoughts and ideas – dig in and enjoy it to its fullest!)
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JimRob still won’t support Romney FUMR
Well, my friend, it appears you have some serious issues with the way I run FR and the goals I’ve set for this site. If you do not know by now that I am pro-life, pro-family, pro-liberty, etc, and that the abortionist/homosexualist/statist Mitt Romney will never be acceptable to me as a presidential candidate then you’re nuts. And if you think I’m going to open up FR as an all inclusive, big tent abortionist/homosexualist/statist site just to increase our hits you’re doubly nuts. And if you think I would do any of the above for money you’re triply nuts.
My positions on God, life, family, liberty and country are non-negotiable and not open to debate. They are what they are and they’re posted on our front page and at the top of every index page: “Welcome to Free Republic, America’s exclusive site for God, Family, Country, Life & Liberty conservatives!”
You must’ve seen this when you registered and or when you login every day, so if you wish to walk some other path, I don’t know why you bother signing in.
So I’ll repeat for your benefit which I’ve posted many times before, if you find FR is not your cup of tea, just move along because we’re not changing it to suit you.
As with all anti-freepers now harping from the peanut galleries, we got a long fine before we met you, we’ll get along fine without you.
But just to show there are no hard feelings if you do go, I’ll leave you with this parting message:
2,076 posted on 04/29/2012 12:44:29 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is on!!)
And away goes another…
To: Jim Robinson
No, Jim, I don’t have any hard feelings at all, and I’m not an anti-freeper or retread.
I still love this site and all it has done to help me understand today’s world of politics, and I am not asking you to change your principles. I just question some of this site’s strategy in promoting these principles, and many of my complaints have nothing to do with you or management.
I’ll probably take a long break after posting this and may never come back again, but in the meantime, I sincerely wish you good luck in keeping this site afloat.
It was nice while it lasted.
2,079 posted on 04/29/2012 12:58:06 PM PDT by WPaCon [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2076 | View Replies]
The best part of this thread I saved for last. The fighting and arguing caused JimRob to lower the amount of money for the goal for the Freepathon! Or maybe it was a way to move the goalposts so they don’t come up embarrassed when the next quarter begins and this Freepathon is still going. Whatever the real reason, you can be sure that Mitt Romney and Anti-Freepers and liberal trolls will be blamed…
To: mnehring; Eaker; onyx; trisham; TheOldLady; DJ MacWoW; JoeProBono; RedMDer; musicman; Lady Jag; …
Well, I’ll tell you what I’m going to do. I’m going to remove the other half of our equipment fund from our current freepathon goal and we’ll make other plans. It’s not worth the hassle. If all the people who say they’re leaving FR actually leave, we may be able to get by with less anyway.
1,672 posted on Saturday, April 28, 2012 12:21:08 PM by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is on!!)
To: DJ MacWoW; onyx; trisham; TheOldLady; JoeProBono; RedMDer; musicman; Lady Jag; MEG33; STARWISE; …
Thank you very much, DJ MacWoW!! I’m sure you are correct. But we will push on without the equipment fund. It’s just not worth the hassle.
And this just in:
$300.00 from Pennsylvania
$10.00 from North Carolina
$10.00 from Never Never Land
$20.00 from California
$50.00 from Never Never Land
$20.00 from South Carolina
$35.00 from Ohio
$50.00 from Virginia
$20.00 from Tennessee
$100.00 from Georgia
$30.00 from Indiana
Thank you all very much!!
And we’re now over THIRTY-FIVE percent!!
This is FR!! For God and country!!
We are the resistance!!
1,689 posted on 04/28/2012 12:37:39 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is on!!)
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