Talk About Islam Among Non-Muslims

A while ago I came across a website called Citizen Warrior who is a person out to educate the world about the evils of Islam. Unlike many of his (lets just make this person a man) compatriots in the war on Islam, Citizen Warrior promotes a more calm and rational hatred of Islam. That is why he started up the website The website has a worthy goal of “Here non-Muslims discuss the challenges of talking to our fellow non-Muslims about the unsettling nature of Islamic doctrine”. The whole content of the website (besides the articles he links back to his main site which include How to Stay Calm When Talking About Islam and When People Think You’re Nuts) is just a single blog post where people are supposed to post in the comments section about the trouble they have when talking to non-Muslims about Islam.

So lets see what advice people have to offer us:

sheepdog said…

There seems to be two basic categories of Jihad; war-like terrorism and taqiyya. Unfortunately, the terrorism is the most easily countered because people (with a brain) see it for what it is. All of the non-violent forms make it easy to deceive the slumbering, gullible public and I’m afraid there are too few of us that recognize the threat of jihad. Until the general public comes to understand that Islam is a government hiding behind a religious front that is totally incompatible with our constitutional form of government we are losing the war. Unfortunately our government controlled media, or is it media controlled government, continues to feed misinformation and politically correct crap.

Taqiyya is the practice of hiding one’s faith when under the threat of persecution, somehow that got twisted around in some peoples’ heads to mean that Muslims are going to hide their faith and infiltrate us (see Obama, Barack Hussain).

Salmon wants to let us know that you should read some books about Islam before spouting off about it. It is sad that needs to be said.

Salmon said…
First and most obvious, since Jihad has killed millions and threatens to kill us, we should take time to bone up on Islam–its history, doctrines and practices. Take the time to read some basic books. Then we will all be thoughtful strategists and not just shooting the breeze.

Our man Citizen Warrior chimes in to let people know to watch out to make sure you don’t get the same reputation as a Dutch politician who wants to ban the Qur’an, tax women wearing headscarfs, end immigration from Muslim countries and was banned from entering the UK for 9 months.

Citizen Warrior said…
Finally Figured Out Islam: The same thing is happening to Geert Wilders. It’s crazy! He only showed Muslims speaking and acting, and showed quotes from the Quran about those actions, but HE is being charged with hate speech. If we can make this point clear and make it obvious how crazy it is, it would go a long way to ending getting over this first hurdle.

Today another Muslim was arrested for something or other. I can’t be bothered to provide details or anything but it totally happened. When are people going to learn that nebulous stories like that can’t happen?

Today another Muslim, in Chicago, was arrested for trying to blow up buildings, poison the water supply or cause other havoc. I cannot understand how any Muslim sympathizer fails to connect the dots – you don’t hear of any other group doing this type of stuff all over the world – because the Muslims are the only ones whose religious and politics takes them in that direction.

You see back in the day the Pope lied to people to kill people but Imams taught people to be nice to everyone. Then some stuff happened and somehow Christianity became very nice and nothing bad ever happened because of people interpreting the bible in a way that would incite violence, hate or discrimination. At the same time every Muslim started reading the Qur’an and they all realized simultaneously it was about killing every non-Muslim ever. Therefor Christianity is better than Islam.

The rebuttal about the crusades is common. Here is how I tackle it.

The Pope told Christians that their sins would be forgiven if they fought in the crusades, but war against infidels is not commanded by Christianity, nor are one’s sins forgiven this way. Noone had bibles in those days so they couldn’t check if the Pope’s declarations were based on the original scriptures. When Martin Luther finally got hold of one of the oldest Greek manuscripts, he translated it and found that salvation was ‘free’, not earnt, paid for, or granted by popes or priests. This started the reformation.

The opposite has occurred in Islam. Like Christians before the Reformation, muslims depended on the Imam to tell them what Islam was about. Mostly the imam would teach only the nice parts, except when war broke out would he instruct the soldiers about jihad. But lately, with increased literacy and availablity of Qurans, anyone can now read it for themselves in his or her language. So, when you scrape back Christianity to its raw state, you do not get the “crusades” anywhere in it. But when you do the same with Islam ie scrape it back to its pure form, the Quran, you get this …..

Commonsense13’s tactic in talking to non-Muslims about Islam is to be completely bat shit crazy.

commonsense13 said…
This is an exchange between me and another member at another site. We “argue” all the time about Muslims and he defends their right to be protected under our Constitution without limit. On this site we are formed of military, LE, veterans and civilians who take the oath to uphold the constitution and protect the country against enemies both foreign and domestic. Part of our mission statement is to Reach, Teach and Inspire, also that under martial law we will not disarm civilians…
ME: So, let me see…we should only talk about what the Active Duty people want to talk about…would that be maybe the killing of their fellow soldiers at Ft. Hood by a Muslim and now wonder whenever they have to serve next to one where that persons allegiences really are? But ya see, they can’t say that out loud on a regular military forum can they? They could talk about it here under an assumed name and info can be shared. Or we can only talk about what is important to LE? Well that would probably be about the illegal Mexicans crossing over our southern borders by the thousands and terrorizing our cities, bringing in drugs, killing, taking resources such as health care, welfare and educational benefits that should be going to American citizens and legal immigrants.
Or should we be talking about what is important to DOJ personnel or all the new czars appointed by this administration who is jamming socialism down our throats? Will IRS agents be included in this group when they are required to garnish your wages because you didn’t buy the governmental healthcare which clearly goes against the Commerce Clause? Are we actively recruiting IRS agents? They can seize our property. Also against the Constitution.
So who decides what topics are valid for who to talk about? Are we to assume that all of these “special” members are going to blindly follow OK’s mission and go against their sworn duty just because of this membership when they do not have the facts of what is really going on at any given moment? Do they read every piece of news out there to keep up to date? Probably not. Who is to say that in something like Katrina there isn’t an area that there is a bunch of gangbangers shooting at the police and military and they are given orders to go in and disarm them…do you think that because of the OK oath they are going to say NO? If they did, what use are they? If there is a muslim training center and LE is told to go in and disarm them, are they going to say NO because no one wants to believe that there are bad muslims here and don’t want to hurt their feelings? Shouldn’t we as a group discuss what is out there, how to handle things, share info, figure out how to bring this country back as close to the Constitution and honest politics in order to support our military and LE to make their jobs easier and keep all of us safer and at the same time prepared if TSHTF? Im sure our LE and military could give us good information on what to do, what we should be doing…for a natural disaster or a political one. Those of you who don’t want to hear it or join in, just don’t…go to another thread but stop calling people names like bigots, racists and ignorant.

This was posted by an anonymous person, I gonna guess it was Glenn Beck.


So I saw a poll the other day and saw that 30% of people were just uneducated about Islam and I thought “There is 30% I can willfully mislead and lie to about Islam”.

Citizen Warrior said…
I rather appreciated your meandering, Traeh. I have felt the same way about wanting to learn more. There always seems to be more to learn before I really feel like an expert. And yet, most people don’t even know the most rudimentary things about Islam. Someone asked me the other day, “Where is Islam?” as if it was a country or region (although that depth of ignorance is rare).

But even still, most people don’t know much about Islam. I just read a poll of Americans that said 24 percent thought Islam was a peaceful religion and 30 percent were unsure. When I read that, I thought, “That means 30 percent only need a little more information to tip them to our side.”

And now we get a look into the mind of Citizen Warrior. I don’t know which I like more: how he casts himself in a fake epic struggle in a larger war of Good and Evil or how he talks about the “Joys of war”.

Citizen Warrior said…
Traeh, your last big paragraph really resonated with me. It is indeed strange being involved in a sort of secret underground war against an ideology. And it IS negative. Find a loving and positive spin? That’s a tough one, but maybe not as tough as it seems. I usually refer to my work as “saving the free world” when I’m talking to my friends. They ask me what I did over the weekend. I often answer something like, “Same old thing, trying to save the free world.” It is somewhat self-mocking, but it is also true and they know it’s true, and many of them admire me for it.

When I am getting off work, someone might ask me, “What are you up to tonight?” I sometimes answer, “I’ll be fighting to save the free world, what about you?”

I think of the role as extremely positive myself, although the content of the task is admittedly sometimes negative.

In my own assessment, I cast our work in an heroic light. All throughout history, the fight has continued, good against evil, in its many forms. And most of my favorite movies depict some sort of battle between good and evil. Movies are a kind of symbolic value-system reinforcement.

What makes movies like Lord of the Rings epic is, I think, its universal message: That the forces of darkness are always gathering and that people of good heart and good intentions are always fighting to keep the good side winning.

As far as I can tell, it will never stop, so we might as well hunker down and enjoy the fight. And I really do think there is something to ENJOY about this fight. I love the feeling of meaningfulness and purposefulness this work bestows upon its warriors.

Someone at work was talking about 2012 and “the end of the world” the other day and many people joined in the discussion. My feeling was that they all lacked a sense of meaning, and many of them had a secret wish that something world-shaking WOULD happen in 2012 because they have nothing historically meaningful in their lives, nothing that gives them a sense of significance. I think people NEED that to really feel fully alive. And I didn’t feel I was missing that element in the slightest and I didn’t share their secret wish.

I feel I am engaged in a life-or-death battle for the fate of the planet, and I have met some magnificient people in this battle, good people who have become my friends and fellow warriors.

This is not a sure thing. It is not certain how things will turn out. There are many people AGAINST what we’re doing. There are secret forces fighting to subvert the freedoms we our predecessors fought so hard to win. This is really and truly a BATTLE, a fight for the playing field, a war of historical significance. And we must win.

The mainstream media focuses on the horror of war, and the psychological scars of war, but there is also the “joy of war,” if you could call it that — the feeling during a war that what is happening is more real and more significant and more urgent and more important than anything that happens in “normal” life. I’ve talked to WW2 vets who have told me that during the war they were more alive than any time since then, and that the bonds they formed under those circumstances withstood the test of time better than any other bonds.

Now I’M meandering. What I meant to say, though, is that although this sometimes feels like a “negative” thing we’re doing, in some ways that’s what makes the fight so important, so significant, and so ultimately satisfying. And that’s positive.

If the Muslim religion is tied to Islam and Sharia, then we definately need to change the “definition” of Religion in the US constitution. If the Muslim religion is tied to Islam and Sharia, then we definately need to change the “definition” of Religion in the US constitution. If the Muslim religion is tied to Islam and Sharia, then we definately need to change the “definition” of Religion in the US constitution

If the Muslim religion is tied to Islam and Sharia, then we definately need to change the “definition” of Religion in the US constitution. To say that Religion is a faith that teaches love and forgivenes and is not a threat to other religions. Once that is stablished. Then we can review the koran (And any other religions), and enforce US Muslims in Mosques to edit verses in the Koran(the teachings) that tie the Muslim faith (koran)with a Law (sharia) that teaches intolerance and killing of anyone who does not believe in the Muslim faith. Only until the Koran is revised (or abrogated as they say), it cannot coexist with different religions. Keep in mind Sharia are “hadiths”, laws that were written not by the prophet Muhammad, but by followers.

Once we change the constitution to make Islam not a religion we can force them to edit their holy book.

So please, next time you are talking to a non-Muslim about Islam keep the previous posts in mind and work their ideas and lessons into your conversation as needed.

Tolerance is Hareem to Freepers

So as everyone who is reading this site knows, the controversial mosque near ground zero cleared the last hurdle to being built when the Landmark Preservation Society voted 9 to 0 against giving the land it is to be built on historic protection. This means that a big scary Islamic building is going to be near ground zero and that means that Muslims are secretly laughing at all Americans. Because of this all true Americans (as defined by Free Republic goers) should be outraged by this shameful act of Islamic gloating. Mtnwmn knows what is up exactly:

This is a slap in the face to most Americans.

2 posted on Tuesday, August 03, 2010 12:57:02 PM by mtnwmn (Liberalism leads to Socialism)

But that isn’t the real problem. The real problem is not just one mosque near ground zero. I have taken the liberty of rewriting The New Colossus to fit the new America

Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles who aren’t Muslim. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome for all who don’t worship Mohammad; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
“Keep, ancient lands, your dirty Muslims!” cries she
With silent lips. “Give me your Christians, your white Europeans,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free for Islam,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door*!

*which I will slam shut in a Muslim’s face.

It was an enormous mistake to open immigration to Islamic countries. You can thank Ted Kennedy for that. It should be stopped immediately. We do not owe the world a free chance at American citizenship.

70 posted on Wed Aug 04 2010 08:22:53 GMT-0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) by WashingtonSource

Of course if RINOs had the balls we would have just nuked the whole middle east. Take that cradle of civilization!

George junior and senior kiss Saudi @$$ at the drop of a hat.
after 9/11 both Saudi and Egypt should have been turned to glass for their part in the attack….but the one world RINOs would have none of that……

21 posted on Tuesday, August 03, 2010 1:39:27 PM by Vaquero (Don’t pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he’ll just kill you.)

I think more than just Muslims laugh at historyrepeatz


22 posted on Tuesday, August 03, 2010 1:41:29 PM by historyrepeatz

The following posts are a small sampling of Freep posts where freepers mistake pork for Muslim kryptonite instead of something that is merely hareem. The last one also highlights their inability to do math.

New York has pigeons, right? Lots of them.
I’m sure those poor pigeons outside of this new mosque would appreciate some nice people feeding them lots of tasty bacon bits, which their tiny little stomachs can thus digest, and their intestinal tract then excrete said bacon bits upon the grounds and rooftop of this wonderful expression of ‘tolerance’.

34 posted on Tuesday, August 03, 2010 2:16:01 PM by reagan_fanatic (Never trust anyone who points their rear end at God while praying.)

Someone just needs to leave a fresh pig carcass on the spot of land via drive-by.
7 posted on Tuesday, August 03, 2010 1:18:42 PM by Cletus.D.Yokel (FreepMail me if you want on the Bourbon Ping List.)

it’s been awhile since i had physics, but i estimate you should be able to heave a frictionless peice of bacon about 60 miles per hour from the top of the freedom tower and smack the mosque roughly 1000 feet away from 1700 feet up.

39 posted on Wednesday, August 04, 2010 12:34:38 AM by bluedressman

I blame fat, dumb, lazy, ignorant Americans for a lot of our problems also. I just don’t think we are talking about the same people though.

I do not blame our enemy for this.
I blame fat, dumb, lazy, cowardly, ignorant Americans for not fighting it.
The enemy is taking a dump on 3,000 Americans who died horribly in those towers, and their families.
And what do Americans do?
Not even ten years have gone by.
What, we’re going to “rise above” our enemy by letting them shove a dagger into our bellies?
Let it fall until Americans suffer enough to come back to reality.

53 posted on Tuesday, August 03, 2010 3:39:06 PM by Boucheau

Let’s pretend Boucheau is sane.

“Could you please point me to the place in the Constitution that states that only certain groups of people have property rights?”
BS! Bury your head a little further in the sand. Just pretend the “nice Muslims” will leave you and your family alone in the coming years.
Let’s pretend their war against us does not exist.
Let’s pretend that what the UK is going through can’t happen to us.
Let’s pretend Islam is not a threat to our very existence in the coming decades.
Wake up!
But hey, they’ll “LOVE” it if you ignore them while they plot and position themselves to cut your dumb throat!

95 posted on Tuesday, August 03, 2010 8:33:47 PM by Boucheau

Man I wonder why no one in Saudi Arabia cared about the feelings of a person who uses the word “raghead”.

Having lived within the kingdom of Saudi Arabia for more than three years, and being a Catholic, at no time.. ever… did any of that bunch of raghead heathens make any effort to determine if I was ever offended by their practice of what is no more than a sophisticated version of a cult…. no more, no less, than the Jim Jones deadly debacle. Islam is by no means what we call a “religion”. It is a deadly ideology, hell bent on attempting the taking over of this entire world…. fulfilling what is known as a “Caliphate”. I can’t, for the life of me, understand what motivation drives the New York stupidity in the capitulation to those godless creatures….
Islam is not a religion! Islam is a full-blown cult! And “sharia” is it’s Operating Manual. Please, God help us in this time need…..

23 posted on Tuesday, August 03, 2010 2:45:09 PM by MODELSHIPS

Go hide behind the constitution.

Go hide behind the constitution.

Go hide behind the constitution.

Go hide behind the constitution.

Open your window, Bloomy..
Do you still hear the cries of 9/11 victims falling to their deaths? Others still do.. this is hallowed ground.
A mosque does little except desecrate the entire area and acts as salt in the wounds sustained by the city and nation that day.
Go hide behind the Constitution, it won’t be the first time this nation’s enemies and detractors have done it..
Enjoy the kool-aid.

10 posted on Tuesday, August 03, 2010 4:51:54 PM by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi … Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Epic Fail or Bust!!!)

Meyer thinks the only way to fight domestic terrorism is with more domestic terrorism.

Bloomberg is a glowing example of what is WRONG with the republican party. The party should kick this liberal moron out, along with many others. He!!, New Yorkers should kick him out of office as well.
What a disgrace. To even think that letting an enemy of our once-free country build essentially a monument to their murder of 3000 innocent citizens is acceptable is beyond contempt.
I’ll tell you what – if they actually build this thing, I hope somebody flies a plane right into the front door of the building while the Islamofascists are holding their first service. Time to start evening the score, not to bend over.

22 posted on Tuesday, August 03, 2010 5:01:29 PM by meyer (Big government is the enemy of freedom.)

The truth is NTHockey is an intolerant bigot.

Mohammedism is NOT a religion; it is a cult of hate. Murder, intolerance, lying, rape, and following the rantings of a goat humping pedophile do not make it a religion.
I may seem intolerant; but if speaking the truth is intolerance, so be it. I make no apologies.

25 posted on Tuesday, August 03, 2010 5:06:43 PM by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)

Remember when you were in third grade and it was all the rage to come up with as many insulting adjectives as you could about the person you didn’t like? Remember when you learned that just slapping words in front of your friend’s name didn’t make the insult any better? Yeah Freepers never learned to progress past that form of insults.

Islam is *NOT* a religion.
It is a violent, seditious, malignant self-contained, authoritarian, totalitarian, misogynistic political, cultural, judicial, and religious system fighting a bloody war for world domination and genocide of the Jews.
Mohammed was a pirate, a pedophile, a polygamist, a rapist, a murderer, a torturer, a thief, a liar, a plunderer, an adulterer, a trucebreaker, a slave trader, a slave owner, an executioner, a Jew hater, and a bloody, savage, genocidal lunatic.
His bloody death cult teaches that he was the “perfect man”, who all Mohammedans must emulate.
Those who do not emulate this bloody, savage, genocidal lunatic, or support those that do, are considered apostates and are routinely tortured and murdered in the most brutal fashion, when the “true believers” catch up to them.

40 posted on Tuesday, August 03, 2010 5:19:49 PM by Westbrook (Having children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)

Freedom of religion? That’s just a guise to let Islam take over. Can’t you people see that? If you’ll notice, this is the second post I have highlighted that calls for the US to ignore the constitution when it comes to dealing with Muslims.

Islam is *NOT* a religion.
You’ve got it EXACTLY CORRECT. We must all get this message out to everyone that we encounter.
islam is, and has always been, an EVIL ENEMY. Until the West can shake off its self-imposed Political Correctness shackles and EXPEL islam and ALL muslims from our Western Civilization, they will continue on their steady march of domination (the same one that has gone on for centuries). All of that PC rubbish needs to be dropped: giving islam protection in this country under the guise of “religious freedom” is a self-imposed suicide pact. Time to wake people up, there is no longer time to worry about what others may think of you, if they are too stupid (and/or willfully ignorant) to understand, why should any of us care what they may think?
The first step is to get people to understand exactly who this ENEMY is and to drop their fear of calling a spade a spade. Unless we want to allow our great Nation to descend into the tattered shreds of national sovereignty that remains in many Western European nations, we need to speak out loudly and clearly against this encroaching EVIL.
Do we have to wait several more years until it gets to the point of what Europe is now confronting until we get a political leader to speak out as Geert Wilders? Unfortunately when it gets to that point, it may prove to be too late.

56 posted on Tuesday, August 03, 2010 6:55:41 PM by zzeeman (Existence exists.)

Silly person, leaving pork products is silly. What we need to do is nuke every Muslim. Don’t you see? Genocide is the only answer.

We should ALL go see it and leave some pork products accidentally.
No, that’s just silly.
We should NUKE THEM ALL!
That is serious.
They are going to enslave our children’s children and bring a 2nd dark age of not THE dark age upon us.
No mercy for these vermin.

14 posted on Tuesday, August 03, 2010 5:50:05 PM by RachelFaith (2010 is going to be a 100 seat Tsunami – Unless the GOP Senate ruins it all…)

Here is a preacher who plans to burn Qurans in protest on 9/11 this year.

These people own guns

Hey so I was looking though USA Carry the other day after Tars Tarkas brought it to my attention and realized it was mostly full of conservative crazies who hate everything that doesn’t represent an idealized version of the 1950’s that the users collective envision. At one point, one of the posters just writes “I want the America I grew up in back” which seems to be what this whole post could be summed up as. Anyway, onto the crazy people:

This is in response to that fake story where some 11 year old girl who is also a skeet shooting champion kills two illegal immigrant home invaders before they can rape and kill her.


Time for some witty word play about what the ACLU could stand for. Also a nice little call for a new Crusade is tucked into the first post.


And from the same thread. You know your tactics are working if everyone is calling you a racist. The logic there is just astounding.


Here is a post to round out your right wing talking point bingo card. It contains about five.


The “cowboys and Muslims” thing is pretty prevalent around the site. It’s their little joke way of saying “kill all brown people”.



In case you were wondering what the Bill of Rights was really about, it is about spreading the word of God.


Why is gay sex so horrible? Because God said it was worst than every other sin combined. Having sex with a dude (if you’re a dude) or a chick (if you’re a chick) is like a super ultimate sin that trumps all other sins even if you combine other sins. This post also answers the question “could God make a sin so terrible it makes him sick”.



“Hello, My name is Sheldon and I am officially offended by the latest ad you sent me”
“I’m sorry sir, why are you offended by our ad” – comcast employee
“English was not the most prominent language on the ad. In America I want all my marketing in English.”
“I’m sorry sir, I really have no control over the marketing…”
“Well you tell whoever is in charge that if I get another piece of Spanish in my ad I will cancel my subscription”
*sheldon promptly runs and post about this on the internet*


Argggggg! Spanish is everywhere now! Why can’t I just buy jell-o with English only instructions?


These are a little old but this dude really hated the idea of a day of protest where people who are gay or support gay marriage don’t come into work.

We should probably classify homosexuality as a mental illness and try to treat it as such. Why hasn’t anyone thought of this before?

All aboard the horrible logic train. Choo-Choo!


A) I read this dude’s name as fetus for the longest time.
B) This guy just used the “I’m gonna tell my dad” argument when talking about God.


I am a legal American citizen and don’t understand much about anything.


uh…I tried to come up with something funny to say about this post but really the crazy in it stands on its own.


Anothony_I_Am is asking the hard hitting questions about negros.


Marriage, since long before the time of Christ, has been sanctified by the Church


Maybe you’re just a racist man.


Why am I not uniting under Obama? Because I am big crazy loon.


This is Sheldon. He actually used “stop acting like a democrat as an insult”. You’ll see more of him in a second.


*walks into a McDonalds*

*punches a guy and takes his food and french kisses the guys wife*

*gets arrested*

“But your honor. This is America where I can do what I want, when I want wherever I want”.


And now for the post that inspired me to make this update.


Now here is a small sampling of the crazy that is Sheldon. First up are some posts from the thread about the Christians being arrested at the Arab American festival.


And now he lets us know what is and isn’t a militant (hint: Christian no, Muslim yes)


And Sheldon weighs in on the timeline of the world and a fanboy weighs in also to reinforce Sheldon’s crazy.


And finally I leave you with a response one of the liberal posters posted on there that I think sums up conservatives motives on the internet. And don’t forget, all of the above people own guns and want to use them.


An Important Public Service Announcement

Today marks an important day in our nation’s historic fight against Islam and the creeping menace known as Sharia Law.  At this year’s Arab American festival, 4 Christian missionaries from  Acts 17 Apologetics were arrested for disorderly conduct and charged with misdemeanor disturbing the peace while trying to convert Muslims to Christianity at the festival.  Today they were arraigned.  A quote from the Dearborn police chief:

“We did make four arrests for disorderly conduct.  They did cause a stir.”

For most people this story would just  be something they read below the fold on the four page of the newspaper but for conservatives everywhere it was a wakeup call that Muslims were taking over the Unites States. (sidenote: my favorite name in those links is “the persecution times”.  How great of a name is that?)

One person in particular who tried to warn us about this impending Muslim takeover of Dearborn, Michigan and subsequent Sharia Lawing of our freedoms  is Gadi Adelman. Gadi has been writing for a while trying to let us know about the evils of Islam and how it is trying to take over America and replace the constitution with Sharia law.  He is humble and doesn’t want to rub it in our faces though as he starts off his latest article “Welcome to Dearborn, Arabia” off:

“When I wrote about creeping Sharia in America back in January in my article “One Nation under Allah” I was called an “Islamophobe.” In March I co-wrote “Are we financing our own demise” with Joy Brighton, an expert in Sharia finance. For that, I was called an “alarmist.” Also in March I wrote an article in which I told the truth about the treatment of women who live under Sharia law and I was called a “racist”. In April I wrote about the amount of terror that stems from Islam.  I was called a “hate monger”. Last week in my article “You’re doin’ fine Oklahoma” I wrote about the ban of Sharia in Oklahoma and was told I was “crazy” to believe that Sharia could ever happen here in America.”

As you can see, Mr Adelman has written a lot about Islam and it’s sinister plot to take over America and institute Sharia Law.  Well we didn’t listen to him and now here we are, knee deep in Sharia law where 4 Christian missionaries can get arrested for disorderly conduct at a drop of a hat for something as innocent as trying to agitate a crowd of Muslims:

“They look for a mark. They look for someone they know is going to be agitated with, for someone who is going to be engaged in a very heated way, and use that to draw a crowd.”

That quote was from Jack O’Reilly, the mayor of Dearborn.  You might be saying “well that just sounds like a normal arrest” but there are things you don’t know.  Did you know the chief of police’s name in Dearborn Michigan is Ronald Haddad?  You didn’t did you and do you know what that means?  I’ll let Mr. Adelman explain:

“In case as you were reading this, you missed it… The Chief of Police of Dearborn is Ronald Haddad. Yes, we can assume that Chief Haddad is a Muslim. Those that I have spoken to involved in this case have confirmed this.”

That’s right, a Muslim.  And according to one of the people arrested, David Wood “Two thirds of Dearborn, Michigan is Muslim.” Think about that and what it means.  You’ll have to decide for yourself because Mr. Adelman never really explains what those two things are supposed to mean when you put them together. Mr. Adelman also never bothers to mention the non-Muslim mayor defending the arrest.

This story is only the latest in a long line of stories that Mr. Adelman has put together to show us how Sharia law is slowing taking over the U.S.

“Kansas City International Airport recently constructed four foot-washing benches to accommodate a growing number of Muslim drivers who requested the facilities to prepare for daily Islamic prayer. The University of Michigan-Dearborn plans to spend $25,000 to construct two foot-washing stations at the University of Michigan at Dearborn while 18 other universities, including a number of public institutions, have installed foot-washing facilities in Michigan and other states. Sky Harbor International Airport in Phoenix added airport user fees to install two faucets located two feet above the ground to help Muslim taxi and limo drivers meet their religious needs.”

“Workers at Tyson Foods’ poultry processing plant in Shelbyville, Tennessee will no longer have a paid day off on Labor Day, but will instead take the Muslim holiday of Eid al-Fitr in the fall. A July 2008 press release from the Retail, Wholesale and Department Store Union (RWDSU), said that a new contract at the Shelbyville facility “implements a new holiday to accommodate the … Muslim workers at the plant.” The union has also claimed that in addition to the observance of the Muslim holiday, “Two prayer rooms have been created to allow Muslim workers to pray twice a day and return to work without leaving the plant.”

So now thanks to Sharia law we have foot washing stations and prayer rooms in chicken plants and now innocent Christians getting arrested for disturbing the peace.  Who will stand up to fight the good fight against Sharia Law?

Rep. Rex Duncan of Oklahoma that’s who, Rep Duncan is introducing a bill to ban Sharia law in Oklahoma.  More precisely what he is trying to get passed is a amendment to the Oklahoma constitution that would forbid judges from using International law (including Sharia law) when considering cases.  Rep Duncan explains:

“wording on the state ballot would include the explanation of ‘law of nation’ and ‘Islamic law’ as well as ‘laws followed by Mohammed’ ”

So thank God there are men out there like Rep Duncan who want to ban ‘laws followed by Mohammed’ and stand up for the Christians in this country who are being persecuted daily by the Muslim Majority.  And will that final note of intolerance ringing in your ears,  I’ll leave you with Mr. Adelman’s closing argument from “Welcome to Dearborn, Arabia”:

“I have been warning and writing and speaking about this for years, I urged you all to speak up and speak out. I said that we in America only have to look at the U.K. or Europe to see where we are headed if something is not done soon and now it has happened.

I am not proud to say “I warned you”, it is here people, Sharia in America. Our Nation that was founded on Judeo-Christian values and principals has now seen the arrest of four people for exercising their rights at an Arab festival.

What are you going to do about it? Contact your Representatives, call the Mayor of Dearborn?

Hitler wrote:

“You see, it’s been our misfortune to have the wrong religion. Why didn’t we have the religion of the Japanese, who regard sacrifice for the Fatherland as the highest good? The Mohammedan religion too would have been more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?”

You choose which way you want to live, while you still can.”

You don’t agree with Hitler do you?

Compassionate Conservatism at work

Robert Byrd (D-WV) died recently, leaving behind a distinguished political career that included many achievements among them being the longest serving senator, the President pro tempore of the United States Senate four times, United States Senate Majority Leader twice, and Chairman of the Senate Appropriations Committee.  Byrd was a powerful socially conservative democrat who you would think that most conservatives would like.  He opposed letting gays serve openly in the military, he endorsed the Defense of Marriage Act, He opposed affirmative action and voted for the partial birth abortion ban.  So why does Freep hate a person that holds many of the same views as them?  The answer is simple: he is a democrat which means he is the enemy.

BTW: To those who say we should be respectful of the dead, I say: Not those who have murdered millions of babies, shredded the Constitution, and stolen trillions of dollars. I would no more think of saying nice things about Kennedy, or Byrd, than I would think it my duty to think of something nice to say about Mao, Stalin, Hitler, or Pol Pot. Democrats are not part of the American body politic. They are alien combatants.

Since he is an “alien combatant” they are allowed to say bad things about him and once they were informed by Fox News that Byrd was once part of the KKK, Freep was off to the races.

Starting out in the House of Representatives, he was elected to the Senate in 1958 by defeating his incumbent republican opponent, who supported civil rights. Therefore, Byrd did not support civil rights. I wish current liberals could hear some of those firey speeches!

This Freeper loves the thought of God purging the senate of people who he disagree with him politically.

Senator Kennedy, Now Byrd, seems there is someone, that can clean house without a vote. There are a few more that need to feel the call of the Lord.

The reason the news didn’t report this “fact” is that it isn’t true

Of course, when driving into work listening to the national news they failed to mention he was a Grand Wizard.

Today is a good day, someone I disagree with politically died

This lifted my spirits! What a good day, we have another good democrat.


I respected neither. The sun is shining a little brighter. The birds are singing a little louder. It’s a beautiful day. I haven’t smiled this much since Ted Kennedy died.


Well jeez, I was taught that you shouldn’t say anything bad about the dying….that being said, I did just put champagne on ice – just in case…..


It’ll be hard to top the warm fuzziness I felt at Ted Kennedy’s demise.


Honestly, that is the best news I have heard in a month!!!!!!! Come on Nov 2. We need the power to stop all the mischief that will be going on in the lame duck session commencing Nov 3.

Disagree with me politically? Well I hope he suffered horribly in the last moments on earth.

I hope he was terrified and in great pain. This miserable human scum stayed too long and used far too much oxygen.


Good riddance, I hope they turn the heat up for him where he now lives.

This crazy post just crops up in the middle of everyone making KKK jokes.  It is actually kinda refreshing to see a pure crazy post complete with bad Obama nicknames

Too many American Warriors unnecessarily have fallen on Byrd’s watch. Everyday lately we get the news of more of those warriors falling in Afghanistan in large part because of the ROEs that dictate that they can’t bring full force against suspected terrorist filth. Those ROEs exist at the behest of the CIC Maobama who had the full support of Robert C. Byrd and the rest of the human refuse that is the democrat party. Maobamacare, tax increases, decreases in our Constitutional Rights and on and on are all in place or are strongly contemplated by the democrat party of Robert C. Byrd and Akbar Hussein Maobama.

I hope the evil old bastard rots in hell.

Why do we need to be respectful to dead people?  Screw that!

Well as the saying goes, we should not speak evil of the recently departed, therefore, I’ll wait a respectful period–maybe a week or so?–before offering my opinion!

I have never understood this prohibition. Ted Kennedy was a despicable pig and a traitor, and I reveled in his death on this forum, as I would have any other criminal or traitor, the moment it was announced. Robert Byrd wasn’t nearly as bad, but was a KKK leader and racist, and later one of the most corrupt Senators in the history of the union. I do not mourn his passing, and wretch in expectation of Manchin appointing yet another sleazebag to replace him.

Second chances are for wimps and losers.  I am a fine upstanding Christian, I don’t give no second chances.

The guy was a KKK leader. None the less he served the longest term in the history of the United States Senate.

And he served as a Democrat.

No, I won’t be allowing this POS to drift off into some dream state as Democrats will be want to do.

This man could not have served as a Republican in the Senate of the United States. The Democrats would have torn him to shreds.

Everyone is a racist, but a Democrat. That’s what they have been pounding into our brains in the 59 years I have been alive.

So no, I won’t be letting this racist prick off the hook.

If you’ve served as a leader in the KKK, you’re done. That’s something I don’t give second chances to get right.

Read about his record. He can go straight to hell, and not pass Go or collect his $200 dollars.

I’m going to pray for the democrat part of Byrd’s soul just to balance this dude’s prayers out.

I’ll pray for his eternal soul that he finds the Lord.

Other than that…as a Democrat, he’s responsible for all sorts of heinious laws and other things that have hurt, harmed, caused pain, and otherwise damaged good peoples’ lives.

I cannot and will not pray for that part of him. He has to answer for that. In the position he was in, he had mega-chances to do good for people, to help his nation and his people. But he chose to be a Democrat.

If he goes, he goes. Bye-bye, Bob. Don’t let the door hit you on the *ss on the way out.

Felt the same way about Teddy and Murtha, and will feel the same way about Lautenberg or any other of these POS.

Sorry; I’m all out of compassion for these cretins. It’s just the way it is.

Mods, delete if you feel it necessary, but it doesn’t change the sentiment.

The mods over at Freep really had to earn their keep yesterday.  They had to delete so many comments people were commenting on the removed comments.

Wow look at all the comments removed..

Byrd has since written on his association with the KKK and has apologized for the intolerant views he held early in life and stating that joining the KKK was “the greatest mistake I ever made”:

I know now I was wrong. Intolerance had no place in America. I apologized a thousand times… and I don’t mind apologizing over and over again. I can’t erase what happened.” Byrd, 2005

Proving that people can change, in the Congressional Report Card released by the NAACP for the 108th Congress (2003-2004), Byrd received a 100 percent approval rating. In June 2005, Byrd proposed an additional $10 million in federal funding for the Martin Luther King, Jr. National Memorial in Washington, D.C., remarking that “With the passage of time, we have come to learn that his Dream was the American Dream, and few ever expressed it more eloquently.”

Let us not forget though that the same people who are so quick to point out Byrd’s past also brought us these wonderful comments about Malia Obama and still actively spell Muslim as mooslim and mudslime and call Mexicans “savages”.

And finally I will be kind and answer one Freeper’s question about Byrd.

Is he dead yet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

yes he is.